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HOA: Bylaws workgroup status

The current revision of the proposed bylaws is available here.

Revised By-laws and Articles of Incorporation Documents Workgroup

Table of Contents

Charter
Why Revisions are Needed
Participants
Timeline
Meeting Minutes

For more information on the workgroup or if you have questions please contact Mark Hunsinger, WVHOA VP, at 847-3806 or wvhoa.vice.president@woodvalley.org. You can also your the Contact Us link at the left to submit a question to the entire workgroup.

This page was last updated on 06/24/2004 01:23 PM .


Charter

The charter set forth for this workgroup is to prepare a proposed set of revised by-laws and articles of incorporation documents for the WVHOA, to gain board approval of these documents, and to present these to the WVHOA membership at the September general board meeting for vote. The requirement for this was voted on at the January general board meeting and was set for as a mandate to the new 2004 board. The specific goals set forth by the workgroup are to produce:

  • by-laws that are legal and in accord with the covenants represented by all the members

  • a legal document that has clarity as to the purpose and intent of the association

  • a document that defines the duties and limitations of the board members

  • by-laws that unify the neighbors with stated goals, a purpose, and notes the specific community and social functions/events supported

  • a legal document that gives definition to membership, powers. and limitations

  • a set of by-laws that spell out the protocol for voting issues.

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Why Revisions are Needed

There are many reasons driving the need to revise the documents. An overview of these are listed as follows. In addition, you can review this assessment document to review a more in-depth analysis of the problems.

  • alignment of the fiscal year with the voting and dues collection cycle
  • fix discrepancies in these documents with the current (and multiple) covenants, such as:

    - ability to impose assessments and liens

    - architectural committee

    - covenant enforcement

    where the HOA has no legal powers to perform any of the items despite them being listed in our existing by-laws.

  • clarify the HOA scope, i.e. does it officially include Heavenridge, others?
  • ensure HOA is apolitical, neutral, legal and focused on the fundamental needs of the neighborhood

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Participants

  • Tony Correale: Developing and Implementing Voting Plan
  • Steve Gilbride
  • Mark Hunsinger, WVHOA VP: Moderator / lead
  • Peggy Lyle: Minutes recorder
  • Judy Penn: Developing and Implementing Communications Plan <draft>
  • Walter Whaley, WVHOA Treasurer
  • Craig Wooster, WVHOA President
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    Timeline

    • 01/20/2004 Mandate by HOA for 2004 board to propose revised by-laws
    • 06/15/2004 Workgroup kicked off to prepare draft new by-laws and articles of incorporation for the HOA for board approval and member vote
    • Weekly Meetings being held to prepare drafts
    • Early Aug. Final board review / approval
    • August Additional details and communications to be made available to all members [Note: The HOA web site will continue to be updated with the latest information on the progression of this activity.
    • Early Sept. 1st of 2 forum meetings to be held to review and gather feedback on the drafts
    • Early Sept. 2nd of 2 forum meetings to be held
    • 09/21/2004 (Tentative) Date for next general HOA meeting and date at which revisions will be voted on in person and via proxy

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    Meeting Minutes

    June 15, 2004

    June 22,2004

    June 29,2004

    June 15, 2004

    August 8, 2004

    Subject: RE: HOA By-Laws Revisions, Work Group Meeting 6-15-04

    I'd like to add some information to the meeting minutes below and thank all those that attended last evening. Thanks!!!

    o Tony Correale, who wasn't present last evening, was volunteered to prepare a Voting Plan for this activity. Tony, if you disagree with this strongly just let us know and somebody else will pick it up.

    o The Communications Plan and the matrix mapping the by-laws proposed by Steve and Tony to those prepared in 2002 by the board in anticipation of the new covenants, will both be ready for review at the board meeting on Mon. 7/21.

    o We agreed on a plan to have this be voted on, if at all possible, at the Sept. general meeting and to 'finalize' this by very early August for distribution, final edits, etc.

    o The top 3 goals by everyone, see Peggy's note below, were very much in sync across the board. Anyone who would like to add to this list, or who has an issue with one of these goals, please speak up.

    o Everyone agreed this needed to be a joint effort between the work group and the board and that both needed each other to ensure the success of this effort.

    o Everyone agreed that we should re-use any previously done work in this area if at all possible to minimize our time and to preserve prior investments by others.

    o Personal observation only: It was interesting to see how close to agreement everyone actually was on most points. It's the typical case of where all probably agree with 90% of the content and that it's the remaining 10% that has to be worked through. We can't lose sight moving forward of all that is already in common. The remaining meetings will be to crisp up the content and work through the remaining 10% of items in disagreement.

    o Everyone agreed the language in the documents should be clear and simple to avoid any confusion or misinterpretation. It was also agreed that all points would be disclosed in the document, e.g. where Heaven's Ridge people are members today but the by-laws don't state that they can be.

    o A summary of the specific points discussed follows. Note: No attempt was made to resolve these or necessarily debate points of view but rather we were attempting to gauge what areas remaining needed focus. In addition to this list there are many other 'smaller' items not discussed given the belief that they were far more trivial and less contentious points that could be handled mostly via review. A partial list of these follows: non-profit status of the HOA, meeting notices, legal references, etc. NOTE: CLOSED below means the workgroup closed on consensus of the point not that it's board approved or anything else. This is merely a record keeping notation for the workgroup.

    1. Membership eligibility for property owner's in Heaven's Ridge Subdivision

    2. Name of HOA

    + CLOSED: All agreed to Wood Valley and Heaven's Ridge Homeowner's Association

    3. Dues - mandatory or not and whether or not increases should be limited to an annual percentage

    + CLOSED: All agreed dues cannot be mandated due to the covenants and all agreed that no specification of a limit on percent annual increases for dues should be documented

    4. Question of Special Appeals for money for projects for neighborhood

    + CLOSED: All agreed these should still be included but that a note should be added to indicated that money collected via special appeals should be kept separate from other HOA moneys and that it must be used for the purposes requested

    5. One vote per lot

    + CLOSED: All agreed only one vote per lot, vs. one vote per owner, should be permitted; Terms and Conditions (Ts&Cs) of how it would work if 2 owners voted, vs. 3 owners, etc. were skipped

    6. Ownership of real property by the HOA

    + CLOSED: All agreed, and there was legal evidence as well to support this, that the HOA could not own any real property

    7. Membership entry / exit criteria

    + CLOSED: All agreed membership should be denoted by paying the dues only, not attending meetings or paying special appeals, and that anyone should be permitted to cancel their membership at any time by providing a written request to the board

    8. Definition of what will constitute a quorum for voting issues

    + OPEN: Discussion ranged from 20, as is listed today, to some percent of the membership, e.g. 25%. Pros and cons of a fixed number vs. a % were discussed briefly including keeping the number reasonable to ensure business can be conducted to making it larger to drive more neighborhood involvement

    9. Actions, purchases, etc. subject to membership vote vs. board vote

    + OPEN: Discussions mostly indicated once voted the board should have the power and flexibility to due business as is specified in the by-laws without restriction. However, consideration of putting a cap on financial expenditures of HOA Board without membership vote was also discussed, e.g. maybe some fixed # such as $1000 or a number based on a % of the budget

    10. Consideration of calendar changes: budget vs. new board vs. dues, ...

    + OPEN: No discussion held as all agreed this would require more time than permitted at the first meeting

    11. Board size, positions, durations, etc.

    + OPEN: Minimal discussion held as all agreed this would require more time than permitted at the first meeting. However, all agreed that some time of staggering / overlap of board members should be required

    12. # Board members present to constitute a quorum

    + OPEN: Minimal discussion held but discussed whether it should be a fixed number, such as 2 today, or a % of the # constituting the board

    13. Contract duration for services

    + OPEN: Minimal discussion held as all agreed this would require more time than permitted at the first meeting. However, all agreed that some limits were required but that the trade-off of getting a better deal vs. over committing the HOA needed more though. Discussed where a maximum length of contract time vs. some exit clause, such as 30-days, without penalty as is currently stated

    14. What is paid for? Lighting, common area maintenance, mailings, etc.

    + OPEN: No real discussion here as everyone felt this was pretty clear but we agreed to defer discussing for now

    15. Board Liability Insurance for HOA

    + OPEN: All agreed this should be purchased for the board but that some clause needs to be included stating that if board members act outside of good faith and the by-laws that they are not subject to protection via HOA $s

    16. Conflict of interest

    + CLOSED: All agreed a statement needed to be included noting that board members must refrain from conflicts of interest with their position, e.g. a contract can't be awarded to a board member

    + CLOSED: All agreed a statement needed to be included noting that board members must refrain from conflicts of interest with their position, e.g. a contract can't be awarded to a board member

    17. Audit

    + OPEN: Minimal discussion but all agreed it was needed

    18. Statement in by-laws that HOA is a voluntary association

    + CLOSED: All agreed this was needed

    19. Statement HOA has no enforcement powers over covenants in the by-Laws

    + CLOSED: All agreed this was needed

    And finally, the official agenda for next week's meeting is as follows:

    Opening remarks

    Review Communication Plan

    Review matrix of by-laws

    Review and close on points 8, 9, 13 and 15 from above list

    Review actions items, next steps

    Prepare next meeting agenda

    Close meeting

    Mark

    -----Original Message-----

    Subject: HOA By-Laws Revisions, Work Group Meeting 6-15-04

    The WVHOA Board has extended an invitation to all 2004 members to participate in revisions of the association's By-Laws. The work group for this effort will include current WVHOA members owning property in the Wood Valley Subdivision and property owners in the Heavenridge Subdivision.

    The first of a series of Tuesday evening meetings was held in the home of WVHOA VP, Mark Hunsinger on June 15, 2004. The start time of the meeting was 7pm and ended at shortly after 9pm. The second meeting will be Tuesday, June, 22--starting at 7 pm and scheduled to conclude by 8pm.

    Four neighbors attended the first meeting: Mark Hunsinger, WVHOA VP, Steve Gilbride, Judy Penn and Peggy Lyle. Each person present agreed to be responsible for a specific task for the duration of the project.

    Mark Hunsinger, Moderator

    Judy Penn, HOA Communication Plan

    Steve Gilbride, by-laws revisions preliminary/proposed to be ready for WVHOA

    Board to review for their meeting the week of June 20, 2004

    Peggy Lyle, work group discussion notes and communication of these notes to WVHOA Board and participating members & contact with a representative member living in the Heavenridge Subdivision

    Mark Hunsinger opened the discussion by getting individual comments as to the goals that each person wanted for the revised by-laws and the following goals were stated:

    * By-Laws that are legal and in accord with the multiple sets of covenants--this includes a final opinion/analysis by a real estate attorney

    * A legal document that has clarity as to the purpose and intent of the association

    * A document that defines the duties and limitations of the HOA Board members

    * By-laws that unify the neighbors with stated goals & purpose and specific community and social functions/events

    * A legal document that gives definition to membership, powers & limitations

    * A set of by-laws that spell out the protocol for voting issues

    Mark Hunsinger had a prepared list of topics for consideration. These topics include:

    1. Board Liability Insurance for HOA

    2. Membership eligibility for property owners in Heavenridge Subdivision

    3. Statement in by-laws that HOA is a voluntary association

    4. Question of Special Appeals for money for projects for neighborhood

    5. Name of HOA

    6. Definition of what will constitute a quorum for voting issues

    7. Audit

    8. Consideration of cap on financial expenditures of HOA Board without membership vote

    9. Size of Board

    10. Contract duration for services

    11. Statement of HOA's No Enforcement Powers over Covenants in the By-Laws

    12. Protocol for members to "exit" HOA

    13. Consideration of calendar changes

    14. Statement that HOA will not own real property

    15. Duration of Board Members Service & Rotation of officers of HOA

    16. Having revised By-Laws ready for membership vote at the September 2004 Meeting

    17. Communication with membership of HOA

    18. One vote per lot

    The By-Laws work group will meet next Tuesday, June 22, at 7pm at the Hunsinger home located at 10404 Boxelder Dr. 847--3806

    The agenda will include: Judy Penn's presentation on HOA Communication, Steve Gilbride's presentation of revised By-Laws and the consensus & direction with regard to Mark Hunsinger's aforementioned topics. This meeting is expected to run for 1 hour.

    These notes were taken by Peggy Lyle.

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    June 22, 2004

    Subject: FW: WVHOA Workgroup for By-Laws Revisions--Draft Minutes--June 22, 2004

    See the minutes of the meeting below. Hopefully these will be on the web site by the end of the week. I'm building the web pages to be added now and will try to send them to Chris by end of the day today.

    Thanks again for everyone's participation and attendance Tues. evening!

    The agenda for the meeting on the 29th will be as follows:

    o Opening remarks

    o Review any board liability insurance quotes Walter may have received

    o Review and close on points 1, 11, 12, 14, 15, and 17 from above list (Note: only remaining points then would be 10 and 20)

    o Review actions items, next steps

    o Prepare next meeting agenda

    o Close meeting

    FYI I've updated out list of 19 items we've been working to close on and have also added a 20th item per some requests to the list. See below for the latest updates.

    1. Membership eligibility for property owner's in Heavenridge Subdivision

    + RE-OPENED: All agreed Heavenridge (Lacebark and Sandberry Roads) should remain part of the HOA but that we should clearly disclose this information in the by-laws, name of the association, etc. Closed at 6/15 meeting. 6/22: Re-opened based on finding that persons on Norwood are also members who are not part of either Wood Valley or Heavenridge. Need to decide whether to leave name as is or generically broaden the name to something such as Greater Wood Valley Homeowner's Association.

    2. Name of HOA

    + CLOSED: All agreed to Wood Valley and Heavenridge Homeowner's Association

    3. Dues - mandatory or not and whether or not increases should be limited to an annual percentage

    + CLOSED: All agreed dues cannot be mandated due to the covenants and all agreed that no specification of a limit on percent annual increases for dues should be documented

    4. Question of Special Appeals for money for projects for neighborhood

    + CLOSED: All agreed these should still be included but that a note should be added to indicated that money collected via special appeals should be kept separate from other HOA moneys and that it must be used for the purposes requested

    5. One vote per lot

    + CLOSED: All agreed only one vote per lot, vs. one vote per owner, should be permitted; Terms and Conditions (Ts&Cs) of how it would work if 2 owners voted, vs. 3 owners, etc. were skipped

    6. Ownership of real property by the HOA

    + CLOSED: All agreed, and there was legal evidence as well to support this, that the HOA could not own any real property

    7. Membership entry / exit criteria

    + CLOSED: All agreed membership should be denoted by paying the dues only, not attending meetings or paying special appeals, and that anyone should be permitted to cancel their membership at any time by providing a written request to the board

    8. Definition of what will constitute a quorum for voting issues

    + CLOSED: Discussion ranged from 20, as is listed today, to some percent of the membership, e.g. 25%. Pros and cons of a fixed number vs. a % were discussed briefly including keeping the number reasonable to ensure business can be conducted to making it larger to drive more neighborhood involvement. 6/22: All agreed to use 10% number, i.e. 10% of the membership is required to constitute a quorum. For example, if there are 380 members then the number for the quorum is 38 members to pass a vote.

    9. Actions, purchases, etc. subject to membership vote vs. board vote

    + CLOSED: Discussions mostly indicated once voted the board should have the power and flexibility to due business as is specified in the by-laws without restriction. However, consideration of putting a cap on financial expenditures of HOA Board without membership vote was also discussed, e.g. maybe some fixed # such as $1000 or a number based on a % of the budget. 6/22: All agreed to use 15% of the budget as this limit, i.e. the board cannot approve any expenditures in excess of 15% of the annual budget without a membership vote. It was also agreed the final wording needed to ensure this applied to an entire project, not piece parts. For example, if $5,500 was the cost for a new sign the board cannot approve expenses in pieces, i.e. $1000 for electrical, $4000 for bricks, etc., but rather must consider the total project costs in order of applying this rule.

    10. Consideration of calendar changes: budget vs. new board vs. dues, ...

    + OPEN: No discussion held as all agreed this would require more time than permitted at the first meeting

    11. Board size, positions, durations, etc.

    + OPEN: Minimal discussion held as all agreed this would require more time than permitted at the first meeting. However, all agreed that some time of staggering / overlap of board members should be required

    12. # Board members present to constitute a quorum

    + OPEN: Minimal discussion held but discussed whether it should be a fixed number, such as 2 today, or a % of the # constituting the board

    13. Contract duration for services

    + CLOSED: Minimal discussion held as all agreed this would require more time than permitted at the first meeting. However, all agreed that some limits were required but that the trade-off of getting a better deal vs. over committing the HOA needed more though. Discussed where a maximum length of contract time vs. some exit clause, such as 30-days, without penalty as is currently stated. 6/22: All agreed to cap contracts at a duration of 1 year and to eliminate the 30-day back-out clause given this is already covered by state law.

    14. What is paid for? Lighting, common area maintenance, mailings, etc.

    + OPEN: No real discussion here as everyone felt this was pretty clear but we agreed to defer discussing for now

    15. Board Liability Insurance for HOA

    + OPEN: All agreed this should be purchased for the board but that some clause needs to be included stating that if board members act outside of good faith and the by-laws that they are not subject to protection via HOA $s. 6/22: Walter is to investigate cost estimates on this based on size of board covered, effect of land use right impacts or not, and dollar amount of covered to determine if guidelines on the amount of coverage need to be established based on the HOA budget.

    16. Conflict of interest

    + CLOSED: All agreed a statement needed to be included noting that board members must refrain from conflicts of interest with their position, e.g. a contract can't be awarded to a board member

    17. Audit

    + OPEN: Minimal discussion but all agreed it was needed

    18. Statement in by-laws that HOA is a voluntary association

    + CLOSED: All agreed this was needed

    19. Statement HOA has no enforcement powers over covenants in the by-Laws

    + CLOSED: All agreed this was needed

    20. Statement in by-Laws on ability to effect land use rights or not

    + OPEN: Only briefly discussed so far. The question is about including a statement in the by-Laws stating whether or not the HOA can participate in activities that may lead to impacting the land use rights of members, e.g. revising the covenants



    Mark

    -----Original Message-----

    Subject: WVHOA Workgroup for By-Laws Revisions--Draft Minutes--June 22, 2004

    The second meeting of the volunteer workgroup to Assist in the By-Laws and Articles of Incorporation (AOI) Revisions met Tuesday, June 22, 2004 from 7pm to 8:30pm at the home of Mark Hunsinger.

    Members Present: Mark Hunsinger, WVHOA-VP & Moderator, Craig Wooster,

    WVHOA-President, Walter Whaley, WVHOA-Treasurer, Tony Correale, Judy Penn and Peggy Lyle

    Moderator--Mark Hunsinger

    Mark had four (4) topics from his list of 19 topics presented at the initial meeting open to discussion at this meeting: 1) Definition of a quorum 2) Financial & other actions that are subject to membership approval vs. board discretion 3) Service contract duration/commitment 4) Liability Insurance for HOA board members

    Item #1: A decision as to the use of an arbitrary number of the membership or a percentage of the membership to form a quorum was discussed. The general agreement of all present was that the use of 10% seems like a reasonable number. If there are 380 members then the number for the quorum is 38 members to pass a vote.

    Item #2: There was general agreement that 15% of the annual budget should be the cap on any single financial investment made by the board without a membership vote. Mention was made that a stipulation should be made that this dollar amount is for an entire project. For example: if $5,500 dollars is the cost of an entry sign then the project cannot be broken down into bricks, electrical etc.--this is an amount that would have to be voted on by the membership.

    Item #3: It was generally agreed that service contracts should be given on an annual basis rather than negotiating for 2-3 years for a better price. The reason was stated that our HOA will not know from year to year how many property owners will pay dues. This HOA is a voluntary membership so there is no set amount of income from dues that can be counted upon.

    Item #4: Liability insurance for HOA board members was definitely agreed upon. This item is in the current by-laws but the insurance was never purchased. Walter Whaley, WVHOA-Treasurer agreed to research this matter and give the workgroup the cost for this insurance. The matter of the insurance carrier stipulating that it would not cover blatant acts in disregard of the HOA by-laws or any other laws was mentioned.

    Communications--Judy Penn

    Judy Penn presented the Communication Plan that she had drafted on June 21 and sent to the workgroup by e-mail. The highlights of the plan include: 1) Naming Mark Hunsinger as the liaison between the workgroup and the WVHOA Board 2) Setting a 24 hour timeframe for the Tuesday meeting notes to be drafted and e-mailed to the Moderator (Mark Hunsinger) to review and send out to WVHOA board members and workgroup 3) Communication of the draft minutes to the General HOA Membership via woodvalley.org website--Moderator will give this information to Chris Merrill to post for general membership review 4) Provisions for membership communication via Special Bulletins, entrance signs and posted notices at the pool for website updates 5) Suggestions for format of a Special Bulletin via US mail to membership regarding all pertinent information 6) Recommendation that once the WVHOA board votes on the proposed revisions there should be 1-2 meetings held for questions with membership 7) Special mailing to membership on the revised by-laws & AOI to be sent in the mail with proxy for those not able to attend the September 2004 WVHOA meeting.

    Judy also designed a template for relating the minutes in a consistent format.

    Heavenridge Subdivision Research--Peggy Lyle

    Peggy Lyle sent two US mailings to the thirteen (13) property owners in the Heavenridge subdivision. The first was a personal invitation to participate in the workgroup for the WVHOA and the second mailing requested a reply as to their interest in an HOA name change.

    To date there have been two (2) responses regarding the invitation and those both declined to comment. To date there have been two responses to the name change and these residents both favor a Wood Valley--Heavenridge Homeowners' Association.

    Side-by-Side Comparison of Proposed Revisions--Steve Gilbride

    Although Steve Gilbride was unable to attend this meeting he did e-mail the workgroup with a comprehensive update on the topics that were closed in the first workgroup meeting. Considerable hours have been put into this project by both Steve Gilbride and Tony Coreale. This involves a side by side matrix of the current WVHOA by-laws with the proposed changes. This topic is being deferred until closure on all outstanding open items occurs.

    Other Discussion:

    * Mark confirmed that he had presented the communication plan to the board and had a favorable response.

    * Mention was made that there are other homes not in WV besides Heavenridge Subdivison that desire to belong to the HOA. For this reason it may be more

    desirable to simply keep the same HOA name and be specific about the membership under the Eligible Members section of the by-laws.

    *Mention was made of a flexible dues determined by needs of the annual budget. For example, perhaps only $20 would be needed per year based on the expected expenses. The general consensus was the $39 membership fee is not a hardship to most property owners but that we'd have to annually review the dues and have this approved as part of the budget approval process.

    * Craig Wooster reminded us that because of the summer vacations and sports schedules that the best time to contact area property owners would be in late August when school begins.

    Next Meeting:

    The next meeting will be held on Tuesday at 7pm at the home of Mark Hunsinger. Mark will e-mail the topics for the next discussion to the workgroup prior to the next meeting.

    Minutes submitted by, Peggy Lyle

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    June 29, 2004

    
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    Subject: RE: WVHOA Workgroup for By-Laws Revisions--Minutes--June 29, 2004
    
    Thanks again for everyone's participation and attendance Tues. evening!
    
    The agenda for the meeting on the 13th will be as follows:
    o	Opening remarks
    o	Review any board liability insurance quotes Walter may have received
    o	Review and close on points 10, 15 and 20
    o	Review actions items, next steps
    o	Prepare next meeting agenda
    o	Close meeting
    
    Please note the meeting on the 13th may be cancelled in the event there is
    not board consensus prior to the meeting on item 20.  Without closure on
    this item first no further progress is expected from the workgroup.
    
    FYI I've updated our list of 20 items we've been working to close on.  See
    below for the latest updates.
    
    		1.          Membership eligibility for property owner's in
    Heavenridge Subdivision
    			*         CLOSED:  All agreed Heavenridge (Lacebark
    and Sandberry Roads) should remain part of the HOA but that we should
    clearly disclose this information in the by-laws, name of the association,
    etc. Closed at 6/15 meeting.  6/22:  Re-opened based on finding that persons
    on Norwood are also members who are not part of either Wood Valley or
    Heavenridge.  Need to decide whether to leave name as is or generically
    broaden the name to something such as Greater Wood Valley Homeowner's
    Association.  6/29:  Closed again.  All agreed  we should list Heavenridge
    and the homes on Norwood at the addresses (11900, 11904, 11908, 11912,
    11916, 12000, 12220, 12224 and 12228) as eligible members but that the
    association name should not be changed.
    		2.          Name of HOA
    			*         CLOSED:  All agreed the name should remain
    the same as it is today.
    		3.          Dues - mandatory or not and whether or not
    increases should be limited to an annual percentage
    			*         CLOSED:  All agreed dues cannot be
    mandated due to the covenants and all agreed that no specification of a
    limit on percent annual increases for dues should be documented
    		4.          Question of Special Appeals for money for
    projects for neighborhood
    			*         CLOSED:  All agreed these should still be
    included but that a note should be added to indicated that money collected
    via special appeals should be kept separate from other HOA moneys and that
    it must be used for the purposes requested
    		5.          One vote per lot
    			*         CLOSED:  All agreed only one vote per lot,
    vs. one vote per owner, should be permitted; Terms and Conditions (Ts&Cs) of
    how it would work if 2 owners voted, vs. 3 owners, etc. were skipped
    		6.          Ownership of real property by the HOA
    			*         CLOSED:  All agreed, and there was legal
    evidence as well to support this, that the HOA could not own any real
    property
    		7.          Membership entry / exit criteria
    			*         CLOSED:  All agreed membership should be
    denoted by paying the dues only, not attending meetings or paying special
    appeals, and that anyone should be permitted to cancel their membership at
    any time by providing a written request to the board
    		8.	Definition of what will constitute a quorum for
    voting issues
    			*         CLOSED:  Discussion ranged from 20, as is
    listed today, to some percent of the membership, e.g. 25%.  Pros and cons of
    a fixed number vs. a % were discussed briefly including keeping the number
    reasonable to ensure business can be conducted to making it larger to drive
    more neighborhood involvement.  6/22:  All agreed to use 10% number, i.e.
    10% of the membership is required to constitute a quorum.  For example, if
    there are 380 members then the number for the quorum is 38 members to pass a
    vote.
    		9.          Actions, purchases, etc. subject to membership
    vote vs. board vote
    			*         CLOSED:  Discussions mostly indicated once
    voted the board should have the power and flexibility to due business as is
    specified in the by-laws without restriction. However, consideration of
    putting a cap on financial expenditures of HOA Board without membership vote
    was also discussed, e.g. maybe some fixed # such as $1000 or a number based
    on a % of the budget.  6/22:  All agreed to use 15% of the budget as this
    limit, i.e. the board cannot approve any expenditures in excess of 15% of
    the annual budget without a membership vote.  It was also agreed the final
    wording needed to ensure this applied to an entire project, not piece parts.
    For example, if $5,500 was the cost for a new sign the board cannot approve
    expenses in pieces, i.e. $1000 for electrical, $4000 for bricks, etc., but
    rather must consider the total project costs in order of applying this rule.
    		10.      Consideration of calendar changes: budget vs. new
    board vs. dues, ...
    			*         OPEN:  No discussion held as all agreed
    this would require more time than permitted at the first meeting
    		11.      Board size, positions, durations, etc.
    			*         CLOSED:  Minimal discussion held as all
    agreed this would require more time than permitted at the first meeting.
    However, all agreed that some time of staggering / overlap of board members
    should be required.  6/29:  Board to remain at a size of 7 with all current
    positions remaining as is.  However, the board must maintain a minimum size
    of 5 members to vote on positions.  Positions on the board will stagger as
    follows with no board member being permitted to serve consecutive terms,
    where a term is defined as 2 years.  Positions on the board shall be
    staggered as follows:
    *	Odd years, starting in 2005
    *	New positions to be re-elected:
        *	Vice President
        *	Recording Secretary
        *	Corresponding Secretary
        *	Treasurer
        *	Member at large (2)
        o	Prior Vice President becomes President
    *	Even years
        o	New position, Vice President
        o	Prior Vice President becomes President
    				The only exception to the above rules is
    that in the year 2005 the positions of the Recording Secretary,
    Corresponding Secretary, Treasurer and Member at large (2) can elect to
    re-run if they so desire.
    		12.      # Board members present to constitute a quorum
    			*         CLOSED:  Minimal discussion held but
    discussed whether it should be a fixed number, such as 2 today, or a % of
    the # constituting the board.  06/29:  With 6 or 7 board members a quorum
    equals 4 persons.  At 5 board members a quorum equals 3 persons.
    		13.      Contract duration for services
    			*         CLOSED:  Minimal discussion held as all
    agreed this would require more time than permitted at the first meeting.
    However, all agreed that some limits were required but that the trade-off of
    getting a better deal vs. over committing the HOA needed more though.
    Discussed where a maximum length of contract time vs. some exit clause, such
    as 30-days, without penalty as is currently stated.  6/22:  All agreed to
    cap contracts at a duration of 1 year and to eliminate the 30-day back-out
    clause given this is already covered by state law.
    		14.      What is paid for?  Lighting, common area
    maintenance, mailings, etc.
    			*         CLOSED:  No real discussion here as
    everyone felt this was pretty clear but we agreed to defer discussing for
    now.  6/29:  The following items, in priority order, were agreed to be the
    basic or mandatory items that the board but pay.
    *	Tax and Obligations required by law.
    *	Maintenance and lighting to the existing  Community Signs and
    Easements thereon owned by the Association
    *	Maintenance and upkeep to existing Common Properties in the
    Associations Community
    *	Insurance required by the Association.
    *	Newsletters and Community Communications expenses. (Includes funds
    solicitation and promotion of community health and recreation facilities)
    		15.      Board Liability Insurance for HOA
    			*         OPEN:  All agreed this should be purchased
    for the board but that some clause needs to be included stating that if
    board members act outside of good faith and the by-laws that they are not
    subject to protection via HOA $s.  6/22:   Walter is to investigate cost
    estimates on this based on size of board covered, effect of land use right
    impacts or not, and dollar amount of covered to determine if guidelines on
    the amount of coverage need to be established based on the HOA budget.
    		16.      Conflict of interest
    			*         CLOSED:  All agreed a statement needed to
    be included noting that board members must refrain from conflicts of
    interest with their position, e.g. a contract can't be awarded to a board
    member
    		17.      Audit
    			*         CLOSED:  Minimal discussion but all agreed
    it was needed.  06/29:  An independent audit of the HOA financial records
    must be done and disclosed to all members in 2005.  Thereafter, every 5th
    year, another independent audit of the HOA financial records must be done
    and disclosed to all members.
    		18.      Statement in by-laws that HOA is a voluntary
    association
    			*         CLOSED:  All agreed this was needed
    		19.      Statement HOA has no enforcement powers over
    covenants in the by-Laws
    			*         CLOSED:  All agreed this was needed
    		20.	Statement in by-Laws on ability to effect land use
    rights or not
    			*         OPEN:  Only briefly discussed so far.  The
    question is about including a statement in the by-Laws stating whether or
    not the HOA can participate in activities that may lead to impacting the
    land use rights of members, e.g. revising the covenants
    			*         CLOSED:  All agreed this was needed
    
    Mark
    -----Original Message-----
     Subject: WVHOA Workgroup for By-Laws Revisions--Draft Minutes--June 29,
    2004
    
    The third meeting of the volunteers workgroup to Assist in the By-Laws and
    Articles of Incorporation (AOI) revisions met Tuesday, June 29, 2004 from 7
    PM to 8:50 Pm at the home of Mark Hunsinger.
    
    Members Present:  Mark Hunsinger, WVHOA-VP & Moderator, Tony Correale, Judy
    Penn and Peggy Lyle
    
    Moderator--Mark Hunsinger
    
    Mark had seven (7) discussion topics for this meeting:
    1) Membership Eligibility
    2) Board Size, positions and duration of office
    3) Number of HOA board members and the number needed to constitute a quorum
    
    4) Itemization of what the HOA pays for
    5) HOA board liability insurance
    6) Audit
    7) Land use rights of homeowners.
    
    Item # 1: It was agreed that homeowners surrounding Wood Valley Subdivision
    should be welcomed.  This includes Heavenridge (13 property owners) and
    various property owners on Norwood.  The purpose of this inclusion is to
    make available the perks of the HOA to neighbors who do not have an HOA.
    
    Item # 2:  It was agreed that the HOA board size should remain at the number
    
    7.  The positions will be the same.  This includes: President, Vice
    President, Treasurer, Corresponding Secretary, Recording Secretary and two
    (2) At Large Board Members.
    
    Terms:  The terms of office will be 2 years.  The VP will serve one year as
    VP and the following year as President.  The other officers will serve two
    (2) years, with the positions being staggered, in their same elected
    positions.  After two (2) years those officers will not serve again in any
    HOA board position for at least another two (2) years.
    
    Item # 3:  It was agreed that if six (6) or seven (7) board members are
    present then the quorum is a vote of four (4).  If five (5) board members
    are present then the quorum is a vote of three (3).
    
    Item # 4: What HOA pays for:  It was agreed that it is the responsibility of
    
    the HOA to pay for the following:
    1.  Taxes--to reimburse the WVS&R Club for the property taxes of the common
    areas within the Wood Valley Subdivision.  Any other taxes that the HOA
    would be reasonably expected to pay.  WVHOA is a non-profit as a corporation
    but files as a corporation for profit under IRS.  This is done as a cost
    savings and continues the way this matter has been traditionally handled.
    The cost is relatively low.
    2.  Maintenance of Common Areas and the Electrical and Water Utilities.
    3.  Upkeep of Common Areas
    4.  Liability Insurance for HOA Board Members
    5.  Newsletter and Special Mailings
    6.  Any other reasonable expenses associated with the HOA sponsored social
    events or other functions/obligations of the HOA.
    
    Item # 5:  It is agreed that Liability Insurance is a must for HOA Board
    Members.  However, this topic will have more discussion as WVHOA Treasurer,
    Walter Whaley, has not received complete information from the insurance
    companies contacted as of this date.
    
    Item # 6: Audit: It was generally agreed that a base line audit should be
    made in 2005.  Then, the audits should be made at five (5) year intervals
    after that.  The HOA does not deal with a large amount of income--generally
    well below $20,000 each year.  It has been suggested that with a Treasurer
    report in each Newsletter with a simple format the members should find the
    finances easy to review.
    
    Item # 7: Land Use Rights/Covenants:  It was agreed that the By-Laws should
    be clear and transparent in the role that the WVHOA will take in future
    discussions of WVHOA involvement and/or funding of Proposed Covenant
    Revisions.
    
    Ultimately, the 2004 elected WVHOA Board Members, will decide how to
    approach this topic as it relates to the Revised WVHOA By-Laws.
    
    Communication Plan--Judy Penn
    Judy has revised and updated the communication plan for the revised by-laws
    project. A short recap: 1) All pertinent information on this project will be
    
    posted on the HOA website woodvalley.org 2) Mark Hunsinger will be available
    by phone or e-mail to address any questions, comments and/or concerns 3) A
    summary of responses from HOA members will be maintained  4) the WVHOA board
    will make revisions to workgroup draft and present the new set of by-laws to
    the membership in early to mid-August 5) September 2004 WVHOA meeting is
    still the target date for general presentation of revised by-laws and the
    closure date for voting by membership needs a defined date prior to January
    1, 2005.
    
    Other Discussion:
    *  Mark will e-mail a list of topics for discussion by the workgroup prior
    to the meeting July 13.  No meeting on July 6 as most people already have
    other plans.
    *  Mark explained that the WVHOA is incorporated as a non-profit
    organization.  However, for IRS purpose, the HOA is handled as a for profit
    organization.
    
    Next Meeting:
    The next meeting will be held on Tuesday, July 13 at the home of Mark
    Hunsinger.
    
    Minutes submitted by
    Peggy Lyle
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    August 8, 2004

         The fourth meeting of the volunteers workgroup to Assist in the  Bylaws and
    
    Articles of Incorporation (AOI) revisions met Sunday, August 8, 2004 from 7 PM
    
    to 8:24 PM at the home of Mark Hunsinger.
    
    
    
    Members Present:  Mark Hunsinger, WVHOA-VP and Moderator, Tony Correale and
    
    Peggy Lyle
    
    
    
    Moderator-- Mark Hunsinger
    
    
    
    Prior to the meeting, Mark Hunsinger, E-mailed a draft of the revised WVHOA
    
    Bylaws document to the workgroup members: Tony Correale, Steve Gilbride, Peggy
    
    Lyle and Judy Penn.  This twenty-four (24) pages document represents a
    
    completed draft based on hundreds of hours of work done by the workgroup based on 1)
    
    all topics covered at the meetings of June 15, 22 and 29, 2004  2) study of the
    
    current WVHOA Bylaws  3) research of numerous sets of existing HOA bylaws.
    
    
    
    All workgroup members communicated with Mark Hunsinger prior to the meeting
    
    regarding any comments, corrections, additions or clarifications that they
    
    thought necessary for this bylaws draft. The focus of the actual meeting was
    
    getting Mark Hunsinger's master draft edited for the final workgroup draft to be
    
    presented to the WVHOA board members.
    
    
    
    The WVHOA Board is scheduled to review the Bylaws draft during the week of
    
    August 9, 2004 .
    
    
    
    Next Meeting of Workgroup:
    
    
    
    The workgroup may be scheduled at a later date to have one or two meetings
    
    after the WVHOA Board has studied the revised bylaws document.
    
    
    
    Minutes submitted by,
    
    Peggy Lyle